there's very little by way of relationships across the aisle and we ran up to a break of the debt ceiling crisis in compromise was reached, retaining the half. we sat by focusing on the problem of congress whose popularity is at all-time lows. you can account for the 9% popularity by blood relatives and paid staffer. with that by on congress, we could diagnose the problem for how to overcome it. >> host: was one of those prescriptions? >> guest: one of those prescription is very simple, which is congressmen need to exercise leadership by putting aside the campaigning long enough to govern. and uncompromising mindset. in order to do that, they have to spend more time in washington, less time raising money and people say that's going to hurt them in the next election. what we sais politicians didn't enter politics just to be stand on principle. few people think politicians are attracted to politics because they were the most principled people in a population. they retracted because they want to govern. leadership takes relationships. we have this phrase, which is familiarity breeds the tom.